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Copyright 2009 Fox News Network, LLC.

Fox News Network
SHOW: FOX HANNITY 9:30 PM EST
March 9, 2009 Monday
030903cb.253
NEWS; Domestic
2054 words
Issues of Socialism Raised with Obama; SNL Takes on Steele-Limbaugh Feud
Sean Hannity, Bob Beckel
Nicole Wallace, Victoria Jackson

HANNITY: The economic stimulus is kicking into high gear, and two think tanks are reported that a lot of those shovel ready jobs that Obama is so keen on may get snatched up by illegal immigrants. This can't be a joke.

Plus, "Saturday Night Live," they weighed into the Steele-Limbaugh controversy. We have the tape.

And America's favorite cable guy is in the house. Blue-collar comedy star Larry the Cable Guy, he's here to discuss his upcoming Comedy Central roast. And we'll also ask him about Obama and Octomom, and more. Straight ahead.

HANNITY: And tonight on the "Great American Panel," she is the former Bush White House communications director and senior adviser to the McCain presidential campaign. Nicole Wallace is here.

He, sadly, has been a Democratic strategist for over 30 years. FOX News contributor Bob Beckel -- that wasn't in the script.

BOB BECKEL, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I knew that.

HANNITY: And she is an actress and a comic and a former cast member of "Saturday Night Live." Victoria Jackson is with us. How are you?

VICTORIA JACKSON, ACTRESS/COMIC: I'm so happy to be on. I'm your biggest fan.

HANNITY: We're so proud...

JACKSON: FOX News, yay!

HANNITY: All right, thank you.

JACKSON: The only one with the truth! Yay!

HANNITY: We love her. She can stay forever. It may -- are you all right, Bob?

JACKSON: It's true.

HANNITY: Look at Beckel.

BECKEL: No, no. That's fine, please. Go right ahead.

JACKSON: I've compared and the networks, and they all lie, and this one tells the truth.

HANNITY: Thank you.

JACKSON: That's why you work here, right?

BECKEL: We're getting off to a good start here. Where are you from?

JACKSON: Miami, Florida.

HANNITY: All right. We've got to -- Whoopi Goldberg actually -- I was watching "The View." They're out now in Los Angeles this week, and our good friend, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Whoopi Goldberg. Both friends of the show.

Listen to Whoopi on taxes. This is great stuff.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, ABC'S "THE VIEW": I am losing my mind, because I don't understand -- like -- one of the things that I saw recently, they have this whole thing about taxing the wealthy. OK. Now, I don't mind that. I don't mind paying a little more tax, because I make a good living.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sure.

GOLDBERG: But I don't want to get it coming and going. I don't want to get the federal raised, and then the state raised, and then the phone tax raised, and then the television tax raise and the city tax. Back off me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: Nicole, you know what's happening? People are getting angry.

NICOLE WALLACE, FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR TO MCCAIN CAMPAIGN: Yes.

HANNITY: Their taxes are going up. They're losing half their retirement. Their home values are down.

WALLACE: Yes.

HANNITY: And -- I'll get to you in a second. People are getting angry.

WALLACE: Yes, yes.

HANNITY: This is only the beginning. Your thoughts?

WALLACE: Yes. I think there's a lot of focus on the right, yelling at the left, the left yelling at the right.

The truth is Obama's biggest vulnerability is he's beginning to lose the American people. When you lose Whoopi, I think you're in trouble. And I love this show, I love "The View." But I think the reason so many people turn to it is they do have a finger on a pulse, and there's something real out there. Class warfare has never worked. And taxing success and redistributing wealth is...

BECKEL: Just out of curiosity, have your taxes gone up in the last six weeks since Obama was president?

HANNITY: They're about to.

BECKEL: No, no. Have they -- have they gone up?

JACKSON: My motivation is gone, because he will punish me if I'm successful.

BECKEL: You don't have to worry about your motivation.

JACKSON: Obama wants to meet Castro.

HANNITY: To each according to your needs, from each according to your ability. That's Marxist.

BECKEL: Are you -- so you're aligning yourself with the communist. Who's the communist?

JACKSON: Obama. Obama.

BECKEL: You're from where again?

HANNITY: What does that mean?

BECKEL: I'm speechless. I just won't say anything else.

JACKSON: I'll talk. I'll talk.

BECKEL: I'm sure you will.

JACKSON: I've never been involved in politics, because (UNINTELLIGIBLE). But all of a sudden -- oh, Hillary Clinton is a socialist. She wants to socialize medicine. Well, I'll have to vote against her.

And then all of a sudden a communist appears out of nowhere, and that's when I started to get involved. So I did research. Black liberation theology, his church, is Marxist. And his professor is a Marxist. He says redistribute the wealth.

BECKEL: With all due respect...

HANNITY: Black liberation theology is rooted in Marxist -- Marxist...

WALLACE: You got yourself a guest host here.

BECKEL: No, no, no, no, no. What I'm telling you is I still want to find out where you're from, because you said he dropped out of so and so and became a communist. Now, he is not a communist.

HANNITY: A socialist.

BECKEL: He's not a socialist either. And let me tell you something. I don't want you to worry about this. I'm worried about you. I'm really worried about you.

JACKSON: I'm sad. I'm sad.

BECKEL: Don't be sad. You'll be fine.

HANNITY: All right. Let me -- let me -- but wouldn't it -- it would be fair to say socialism.

WALLACE: Take it -- let's take it off the panel because I feel like my friend here is going to pass out. The New York Times, The New York Times, the New York Times, asked Barack Obama in an interview if he was a socialist.

And he answered the question -- you know, I think he gave a not an overheated answer, gave a response. He was so uncomfortable that perhaps he had not sufficiently convinced them that he was not, in fact, a socialist, so he called them back, "Hey, another reason why I'm not a socialist."

I think you know, I think you have to act as confident in denying your socialist instincts as Bob does.

BECKEL: Nicole, let me ask you to go On the Record here. Are you saying without any question -- I know what you're saying, he's a communist. Were you saying that Barack Obama, the president of the United States, is a socialist?

HANNITY: Yes. I think he is.

WALLACE: No, what I just said...

BECKEL: That's a big surprise. I was listening to your radio show today. I'm asking you.

WALLACE: The point that I just made was that he was so sensitive about this point and so self-conscious about the perception. I mean, you may disagree with our friend here, but she has strong feelings.

HANNITY: Let -- let Victoria in.

JACKSON: I'd like to say something. I went to my first protest, and it was a conservative protest on Santa Monica pier a week ago, so it was very quiet.

BECKEL: I bet.

JACKSON: It was like, "Excuse me, we disagree. Excuse me." We gave speeches, and my sign said, "We Don't Want No Socialism." I know it's incorrect English, but I thought it would attract the attention.

So NBC had a camera, and the 20-year-old girl says, "What's wrong with socialism?"

BECKEL: You must have felt like I did when I had a meeting with liberals in Orange County. It was very small.

JACKSON: Small and polite, and we didn't set anything on fire. We didn't get on TV. I'm saying that the American public, like me, who doesn't want to get involved, is starting...

HANNITY: To get fed up. You hear her, Bob?

JACKSON: We've had it up to here.

HANNITY: All right. We've got to take a break. We're going to come back with our panel.

First time to check in with Greta Van Susteren, to see what's coming up in 22 short minutes from right now -- Greta.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST, "ON THE RECORD": Good evening, Sean.

And tonight, two Democratic United States senators are taking on their party about this $410 billion spending bill. Funding bill. And they're talking on their president. One of those U.S. senators will be here to go "On the Record."

Plus two Republican senators are saying let the bad banks fail. Will that hurt us? We'll find out.

That and much more. Back to you.

HANNITY: Greta, we'll be watching, 21 minutes from right now. They're fighting off air. It's going to continue. More with our "Great American Panel," coming up right after the break.

And Larry the Cable Guy, straight ahead.

HANNITY: And we continue now with our "Great American Panel."

All right, the Limbaugh-Steele issue made it to "Saturday Night Live." I just want roles reversed, if Michael Steele were liberal and this were a conservative show, what would be the reaction. Let's roll the tape.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KENAN THOMPSON, CAST MEMBER, NBC'S "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": Rush and I had a great meeting on Monday, and we squashed that beef, and we both agree that what's going to bring people back to the Republican Party is an off the hook marketing campaign. Holla!

(SOUND EFFECT: BUZZ)

THOMPSON: I mean issues. We've got to control all this government spending, Seth.

SETH MEYERS, CAST MEMBER, NBC'S "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": I'm sorry. Hold on. If I can go back, what just happened there?

THOMPSON: What?

MEYERS: There's something on your head.

THOMPSON: What, this?

MEYERS: Yes.

THOMPSON: That's just the electrode that the Limbaugh people put in there.

MEYERS: Rush Limbaugh put an electrode in your head? That's crazy. Why would you let them do that?

THOMPSON: Come on, Seth. It's all good. They're harmless. I mean, Rush Limbaugh is just an entertainer.

(SOUND EFFECT: BUZZ)

THOMPSON: A great entertainer.

(SOUND EFFECT: BUZZ)

THOMPSON: A beacon of truth and light in times of uncertainty.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HANNITY: Would there be a difference if this were a liberal African- American leader of the Democratic Party?

WALLACE: That's hard, and we'll never know, right?

But you know, look, I think that this whole fight with Limbaugh and Steele, making it to "Saturday Night Live" is interesting on one level. The other one the fact that this was a West-Wing-orchestrated campaign blows my mind. For a president who promised an end to childish things.

HANNITY: Like going after Joy Behar when you were with the Bush White House.

WALLACE: Exactly.

BECKEL: Well, first of all, let me -- I've got to a little truth. Michael Steele is a friend of mine. I think that went farther than it should have gone. I don't think Michael deserves that.

Having said that, the Limbaugh-West Wing campaign has worked. And it has worked to a...

HANNITY: It's backfiring.

BECKEL: I don't believe it is backfiring. Leaving that aside, I think Steele got caught up in this thing, and that is probably an unfair -- it is an unfair representation. Because I know Michael Steele, and I -- that bothers me a little bit.

JACKSON: I would like to say that I kind of think they picked Michael because he's black. But I would also like to say that I heard Rush Limbaugh's speech at CPAC, and I was clapping my hands shouting hallelujah in the living room. And I would like him to be the president or you.

HANNITY: Right. Me?

JACKSON: Rush or you.

HANNITY: I'll be the VP.

JACKSON: Rush...

BECKEL: Could you repeat that for the record?

JACKSON: Rush, Sarah Palin, and him. That's who's I'd like to run the country.

BECKEL: Rush, Sarah Palin and him?

JACKSON: That's who I want to run the country.

BECKEL: New Zealand, here we come. New Zealand is a nice place.

HANNITY: All right, real quick, Charlie Rangel, ethical issues. He was confronted. Let's roll that tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was wondering, with Americans struggling to pay their bills, losing their jobs, why the hell do you drive taxpayer- subsidized Cadillacs? (UNINTELLIGIBLE) And fair to pay taxes on rental properties?

REP. CHARLIE RANGEL (D), NEW YORK: Why don't you mind your goddamn business?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I'm serious. Why are you such a disgrace?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: Why don't Democrats pay taxes? We have how many tax cheats in the party? Can't you find any honest Democrats in this administration? This is the last question.

BECKEL: First of all, let me just say that that kid you've got up there is on his way to a Pulitzer, I'm sure. The fact of the matter is Charlie Rangel is being investigated. He hasn't been convicted of anything yet. He hasn't been accused of anything yet. Last week two Republicans...

HANNITY: What about all the other tax cheats? We're out of time.

BECKEL: ... two Republicans, had staffers just went to prison.

HANNITY: Victoria, thank you. Good to see you.

JACKSON: This is what our country needs, the Bible. I didn't get time to get to that.

HANNITY: We'll get -- we'll bring you back.

Larry the Cable Guy is straight ahead.
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